Tom, the reason for understanding the enemy, via compassion, is so that you can take the stick out of the bully's hand. Compassion doesn't defeat accountability or speaking the truth about what is happening, it enables it. Our idiot legislators did what they did because they didn't allow themselves to feel the pain of what was happening or speak truth about it.
I don't counsel compassion for the bullies' sake, but for ours as advocates, so that we see clearly. And combining force with compassion is exactly what we must do.
Well I think bullies bast respond to being sidelined. Certainly they are emboldened by repeated success. And of course their motives are often contradictory.
Most women have experienced the "mean girls" in high school. In a general way, women can see this behavior for what it is and know how to deal with it. I think we need to do a better job convincing women to fight for men's rights and against the radical feminist. We're beginning to see that with organizations like "mothers with sons". I think they advocate for men's rights. Blogger TinMen may be right. It's a branding problem. If we can convince women the goal is not misogyny but equal rights, maybe that will make a difference.
David, I'd find it very helpful if you (and other contributors) would provide us with definitions, or at least their own working definitions, of words such as "compassion," "empathy" and "sympathy." They're not, or once were not, synonyms. The distinctions, therefore, are worth noting. Otherwise, we're talking at cross purposes.
Paul, you're right, definitions would be helpful. As I said in my dialogue with Janice, I think empathy is the closest word to what I mean, and I am referring to the fellow-feeling one gets from identifying with the issues of the other (what compassion - common passion - used to mean but doesn't any longer). I contrast that with accountability, which is holding the other accountable for their behavior and attitudes. I see the combination of these two as representing the essence of a balanced, healthy relationship with the other. Moral polarization, on the other hand, splits empathy and accountability, as in feminism which has empathy without accountability for women and accountability without empathy for men. In other words, feminism "gets" all of the ways that women are powerless and none of the ways that they are powerful, and vice versa for men.
I counsel empathy and accountability for both men and women, which means that we "get" the ways that women and powerless AND the ways that they are powerful, and we "get" the ways that men are powerful AND the ways that they are powerless.
Tom, the reason for understanding the enemy, via compassion, is so that you can take the stick out of the bully's hand. Compassion doesn't defeat accountability or speaking the truth about what is happening, it enables it. Our idiot legislators did what they did because they didn't allow themselves to feel the pain of what was happening or speak truth about it.
Bullies respond to force, not to compassion. The question is whether we can combine our force with compassion.
I don't counsel compassion for the bullies' sake, but for ours as advocates, so that we see clearly. And combining force with compassion is exactly what we must do.
Hard core radical feminism is like the kiss of the vampire. Compassion for such a condition exists, but it's not for the squeamish.
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Well I think bullies bast respond to being sidelined. Certainly they are emboldened by repeated success. And of course their motives are often contradictory.
Most women have experienced the "mean girls" in high school. In a general way, women can see this behavior for what it is and know how to deal with it. I think we need to do a better job convincing women to fight for men's rights and against the radical feminist. We're beginning to see that with organizations like "mothers with sons". I think they advocate for men's rights. Blogger TinMen may be right. It's a branding problem. If we can convince women the goal is not misogyny but equal rights, maybe that will make a difference.
David, I'd find it very helpful if you (and other contributors) would provide us with definitions, or at least their own working definitions, of words such as "compassion," "empathy" and "sympathy." They're not, or once were not, synonyms. The distinctions, therefore, are worth noting. Otherwise, we're talking at cross purposes.
Paul, you're right, definitions would be helpful. As I said in my dialogue with Janice, I think empathy is the closest word to what I mean, and I am referring to the fellow-feeling one gets from identifying with the issues of the other (what compassion - common passion - used to mean but doesn't any longer). I contrast that with accountability, which is holding the other accountable for their behavior and attitudes. I see the combination of these two as representing the essence of a balanced, healthy relationship with the other. Moral polarization, on the other hand, splits empathy and accountability, as in feminism which has empathy without accountability for women and accountability without empathy for men. In other words, feminism "gets" all of the ways that women are powerless and none of the ways that they are powerful, and vice versa for men.
I counsel empathy and accountability for both men and women, which means that we "get" the ways that women and powerless AND the ways that they are powerful, and we "get" the ways that men are powerful AND the ways that they are powerless.