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Derpetology101's avatar

I would not be a bit surprised as the Klan was all about protecting white women from black men. The majority of lynchings of black men were the result of 'believe all women' when it came to accusations of sexual impropriety, no matter how slight.

Feminists heads explode when you point this out, but what happened to Emmett Till is exactly what they are pushing for except that they want it to be legal and extended to all men.

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J. Hard R Tolkien's avatar

The story of Till has been grossly rewritten by essentially the same people who support feminism. The more you look into the case and Till, the more you will see why a lynch gang - almost half of whom were black - would kill Till.

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Derpetology101's avatar

As famous as this story is, you'd think more people would know that Till's father was executed by the military for 2 counts of rape and 1 of murder, and that he had only enlisted to avoid jail for domestic abuse. One has to wonder how far that apple fell from that tree.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Till#:~:text=Louis%20Till%20was%20the%20father,son%27s%20murderers%20ten%20years%20later.

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Joesph J Esposito's avatar

I just looked into this story and the accussers could NOT identify the senior Till as the suspect because they were attacked in darkness. None of this justifies vigilante justice.

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J. Hard R Tolkien's avatar

You'll have to show this to those of us who don't believe you.

I do believe you read someone else claiming this, but I don't believe you saw the Italian documents.

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Joesph J Esposito's avatar

Ok, this was something I googled, maybe it was a real crime, anyway I see the death penalty as vigilante justice even if the person is guilty. Once someone is incarcerated they are neutralized and are no longer a threat to society.

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Senior Till's hanging was not a vigilante act, it was a sentence imposed during a military court martial.

During that court martial, two soldiers who participated in the home invasion, one of whom alleged that Till threatened to kill them if they didn't, testified that Till raped both women and then shot one of them while they begged him not to.

One of the soldiers was given immunity for his testimony. The other one, Fred McMurray, left physical evidence, in the form of an envelope addressed to him, at the scene.

So his accusers, his fellow soldiers, did positively identify him. Of the two victims, one of them couldn't identify him because he killed her. I don't know if the other one could identify him or not, but there was plenty of other evidence.

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Joesph J Esposito's avatar

What the Father did is not a reflection or indictment of the son

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Derpetology101's avatar

Why not? It's well known that sexual violence is generational. What are the odds that Emmitt, whose father chose going to war over doing prison time for domestic violence and then was hanged for 2 rapes and 1 murder, had an idyllic childhood involving a strict moral upbringing?

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Joesph J Esposito's avatar

'Sexual violence' LOL... NO SUCH THING! That's a buzz phrase for turning consensual sex into rape during intercourse. Anytime I've heard the phrase 'sexual violence' it was a dog whistle to wo-MEN who would claim rape at ANY stage DURING INTERCOURSE. Real rape, needs forensic evidence of a life & death struggle, imop or else it's a LIE. My Father was in construction & I hate psysical labor. My Father (out of love) slapped me around yet I don't believe in that method. So while I get that genes are passed down, I don't think it's fair to see the sins of the father as evidence against the son

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Derpetology101's avatar

lol I didn't say anything about genes, I said "generational." That refers to the way children are raised by their parents.

"Real rape, needs forensic evidence of a life & death struggle, imop or else it's a LIE." If there is a life or death struggle, wouldn't you agree that that was sexual violence? Just because people use a term illegitimatey or dishonestly, that doesn't mean it doesn't reference a real thing. Of course there's sexual violence.

As far as your contention that a woman can't be raped unless she puts up a "life or death struggle," that's a ridiculous position. Would you say a person couldn't be legally robbed if he didn't put up a life or death struggle? "Sorry, but you should have let him shoot you instead of giving him your wallet, no crime here."

Unless you believe that rape is worse than death, why would you choose a serious risk to your life (how many women could best a man in a life and death struggle?) rather than cut your losses and acquiesce?

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Joesph J Esposito's avatar

"Nothing that boy did could ever justify what happened to him" Carolyn Bryant Donham admitted to fabricating testimony against Till. So please do educate me as to what you are saying?

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J. Hard R Tolkien's avatar

No. She didn't. A journalist claimed she did.

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Joesph J Esposito's avatar

The more you look into the case and Cosby, the more you will see why a lynch gang - almost half of whom were black - would FRAME Cosby. Ever hear of the pound cake speech?

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Nrjnigel's avatar

To kill a mocking bird is a book we "did" at school. It is interesting because the actual story is about an inocent man being accused of rape, being convicted solely on accusation and prejudice and being killed while "escaping". Much more recently I found on line a list of hundreds of cases of "extra judicial" killings and beatings. To be honest I was surprised to find 80% were cases of an accusation, from rape to looking at women in the "wrong" way. If one ignored the race it was a litany familiar in "rape culture". A classic of getting men to to terrible things in "protection" of defenseless women. It was as though feminism was copying this Strategy just extending it from black men to all men.

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