As famous as this story is, you'd think more people would know that Till's father was executed by the military for 2 counts of rape and 1 of murder, and that he had only enlisted to avoid jail for domestic abuse. One has to wonder how far that apple fell from that tree.
I just looked into this story and the accussers could NOT identify the senior Till as the suspect because they were attacked in darkness. None of this justifies vigilante justice.
Ok, this was something I googled, maybe it was a real crime, anyway I see the death penalty as vigilante justice even if the person is guilty. Once someone is incarcerated they are neutralized and are no longer a threat to society.
Senior Till's hanging was not a vigilante act, it was a sentence imposed during a military court martial.
During that court martial, two soldiers who participated in the home invasion, one of whom alleged that Till threatened to kill them if they didn't, testified that Till raped both women and then shot one of them while they begged him not to.
One of the soldiers was given immunity for his testimony. The other one, Fred McMurray, left physical evidence, in the form of an envelope addressed to him, at the scene.
So his accusers, his fellow soldiers, did positively identify him. Of the two victims, one of them couldn't identify him because he killed her. I don't know if the other one could identify him or not, but there was plenty of other evidence.
Why not? It's well known that sexual violence is generational. What are the odds that Emmitt, whose father chose going to war over doing prison time for domestic violence and then was hanged for 2 rapes and 1 murder, had an idyllic childhood involving a strict moral upbringing?
'Sexual violence' LOL... NO SUCH THING! That's a buzz phrase for turning consensual sex into rape during intercourse. Anytime I've heard the phrase 'sexual violence' it was a dog whistle to wo-MEN who would claim rape at ANY stage DURING INTERCOURSE. Real rape, needs forensic evidence of a life & death struggle, imop or else it's a LIE. My Father was in construction & I hate psysical labor. My Father (out of love) slapped me around yet I don't believe in that method. So while I get that genes are passed down, I don't think it's fair to see the sins of the father as evidence against the son
lol I didn't say anything about genes, I said "generational." That refers to the way children are raised by their parents.
"Real rape, needs forensic evidence of a life & death struggle, imop or else it's a LIE." If there is a life or death struggle, wouldn't you agree that that was sexual violence? Just because people use a term illegitimatey or dishonestly, that doesn't mean it doesn't reference a real thing. Of course there's sexual violence.
As far as your contention that a woman can't be raped unless she puts up a "life or death struggle," that's a ridiculous position. Would you say a person couldn't be legally robbed if he didn't put up a life or death struggle? "Sorry, but you should have let him shoot you instead of giving him your wallet, no crime here."
Unless you believe that rape is worse than death, why would you choose a serious risk to your life (how many women could best a man in a life and death struggle?) rather than cut your losses and acquiesce?
In 2009 a Yale lab tech ... Annie Le .. (4' 9" 89lbs) was murdered by 'attempted rapist' .......................Raymond Clark .. (5" 9" .. 190lbs) she FOUGHT back so hard...
SHE LEFT ABRASIONS & SCRATCHES OVER HIS ENTIRE CHEST....so much so...
That his alibi was: "My cat did it" Since due process requires 'forensic evidence' of a rape...wouldn't you conclude that fighting back/resistance/ is required for it to be rape? Your juxtapositon between robbery at gunpoint...
vs .............................................................................. rape with no gun...
is right out of the fEMINIST playbook. 'Sexual violence' is a buzz phrase that arbitrarily brands anything as rape according to a wo-MAN'S discretion.
Rape is violence with sex involved. 'Sexual violence' is a non sequitur.
Just as ............................................................'date rape drug' is a non sequitur.
THERE'S NO SUCH THING. >>.....99% of ecstasy is done consensually.
That a 1% minority uses that drug criminally, doesn't justify the non sequitur fallacy.
As famous as this story is, you'd think more people would know that Till's father was executed by the military for 2 counts of rape and 1 of murder, and that he had only enlisted to avoid jail for domestic abuse. One has to wonder how far that apple fell from that tree.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Till#:~:text=Louis%20Till%20was%20the%20father,son%27s%20murderers%20ten%20years%20later.
I just looked into this story and the accussers could NOT identify the senior Till as the suspect because they were attacked in darkness. None of this justifies vigilante justice.
You'll have to show this to those of us who don't believe you.
I do believe you read someone else claiming this, but I don't believe you saw the Italian documents.
Ok, this was something I googled, maybe it was a real crime, anyway I see the death penalty as vigilante justice even if the person is guilty. Once someone is incarcerated they are neutralized and are no longer a threat to society.
Senior Till's hanging was not a vigilante act, it was a sentence imposed during a military court martial.
During that court martial, two soldiers who participated in the home invasion, one of whom alleged that Till threatened to kill them if they didn't, testified that Till raped both women and then shot one of them while they begged him not to.
One of the soldiers was given immunity for his testimony. The other one, Fred McMurray, left physical evidence, in the form of an envelope addressed to him, at the scene.
So his accusers, his fellow soldiers, did positively identify him. Of the two victims, one of them couldn't identify him because he killed her. I don't know if the other one could identify him or not, but there was plenty of other evidence.
What the Father did is not a reflection or indictment of the son
Why not? It's well known that sexual violence is generational. What are the odds that Emmitt, whose father chose going to war over doing prison time for domestic violence and then was hanged for 2 rapes and 1 murder, had an idyllic childhood involving a strict moral upbringing?
'Sexual violence' LOL... NO SUCH THING! That's a buzz phrase for turning consensual sex into rape during intercourse. Anytime I've heard the phrase 'sexual violence' it was a dog whistle to wo-MEN who would claim rape at ANY stage DURING INTERCOURSE. Real rape, needs forensic evidence of a life & death struggle, imop or else it's a LIE. My Father was in construction & I hate psysical labor. My Father (out of love) slapped me around yet I don't believe in that method. So while I get that genes are passed down, I don't think it's fair to see the sins of the father as evidence against the son
lol I didn't say anything about genes, I said "generational." That refers to the way children are raised by their parents.
"Real rape, needs forensic evidence of a life & death struggle, imop or else it's a LIE." If there is a life or death struggle, wouldn't you agree that that was sexual violence? Just because people use a term illegitimatey or dishonestly, that doesn't mean it doesn't reference a real thing. Of course there's sexual violence.
As far as your contention that a woman can't be raped unless she puts up a "life or death struggle," that's a ridiculous position. Would you say a person couldn't be legally robbed if he didn't put up a life or death struggle? "Sorry, but you should have let him shoot you instead of giving him your wallet, no crime here."
Unless you believe that rape is worse than death, why would you choose a serious risk to your life (how many women could best a man in a life and death struggle?) rather than cut your losses and acquiesce?
In 2009 a Yale lab tech ... Annie Le .. (4' 9" 89lbs) was murdered by 'attempted rapist' .......................Raymond Clark .. (5" 9" .. 190lbs) she FOUGHT back so hard...
SHE LEFT ABRASIONS & SCRATCHES OVER HIS ENTIRE CHEST....so much so...
That his alibi was: "My cat did it" Since due process requires 'forensic evidence' of a rape...wouldn't you conclude that fighting back/resistance/ is required for it to be rape? Your juxtapositon between robbery at gunpoint...
vs .............................................................................. rape with no gun...
is right out of the fEMINIST playbook. 'Sexual violence' is a buzz phrase that arbitrarily brands anything as rape according to a wo-MAN'S discretion.
Rape is violence with sex involved. 'Sexual violence' is a non sequitur.
Just as ............................................................'date rape drug' is a non sequitur.
THERE'S NO SUCH THING. >>.....99% of ecstasy is done consensually.
That a 1% minority uses that drug criminally, doesn't justify the non sequitur fallacy.
"Rape is violence with sex involved. 'Sexual violence' is a non sequitur."
lol Do you ever actually think before you type?