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LOL indeed. This is as good an example of confession through projection as I've seen all month, and you had some pretty stiff competition.

You dismiss the etymological roots of 'ethnicity' as coming from "a time when those references were sure to be synonomous with 'racially distinct'" even though they go back all the way to the ancient Greeks when 'ethnos' meant nation or people. How racially distinct do you imagine the neighboring city states of the Greeks were? What distinctly different races lived in Athens and Sparta? Yet Athens and Sparta were culturally distinct and therefore ethnically distinct. How racially distinct were the Greeks from the Romans, the Galli, the Britons, and the Slavs? The vast majority of different ethnicities they were in contact with are what we would now call white.

Then you argued that "as of just yesterday, before Woke, 'ethnicity' is[sic] a proxy for race (think of police reports and medical research)" yet you conviently don't elaborate on what you're referring to in police reports and medical research that proves your point. Do people use 'ethnicity' as a proxy for race, sometimes? Sure they do. In some circumstances there is a big overlap between race and ethnicity, as evidenced by terms like 'black culture'. But how many people would really argue that recent African immigrants are ethnically the same as the descendants of American slaves? Practically no one would.

Ethnicity simply has a much broader definition that can include race, nationality, religion, culture, and other factors. It's also true that race is not a hard and fast biological category, especially today. Ethnicities can nest within each other at different levels, as well.

I first became aware of the concept of ethnicity as a boy in the 60s and, at least among the literate, it has never been simply a proxy for race. If anything, the use of the term 'ethnocentrism' to mean "a preference for people of one's own race" is coming FROM woke ideology like CRT, and not pre-dating it.

That's what the woke do--they build their nonsenical arguments by simply redefining words to mean whatever supports their position, as you are doing here.

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