Those complainants with a negative toxicology report should be charged with wasting police time. Similarly, the penalties for demonstrably false accusations against another person should be increased and enforced. Many women in particular seem to have no qualms about using false claims as a weapon and/or to garner sympathy from a society predisposed to believe them.
It won't happen in our lifetimes because the political upside is too small and the downside far too great. Included in the reports I read are plenty of cautions about how the drugs administered may exit the body very quickly, making it difficult to test for them. Even in cases of demonstrably false accusations, it is too easy for the accuser to claim honest mistake, honest belief, or prior abuse leading to mental confusion. The risk of being shown to have disbelieved or punished a single verified victim is simply too high. In comparison, smearing all men as predators and enormously wasting police resources are as nothing.
Indeed, you'll have to forgive me then if I don't "believe all women" (even you Janice!). Ultimately crying wolf hurts all of society because it erodes social capital. However, it's main target is men. Women shouldn't be surprised if it creates more wolves in the process, and a greater tolerance for wolves among men.
I wouldn't trust me either. I don't see that it does tend to create more wolves, but perhaps eventually it will. I've yet to meet a man who is genuinely indifferent to the abuse of women. But I definitely see more men deciding that, whatever happens, they will not intervene because it's too dangerous for them.
I believe it will create more wolves because if you're treated like a wolf, regardless of your true nature, you might as well behave like a wolf and gain the benefits that come with it, including revenge. I cannot be a wolf at all times because it's not in my nature, but I admire them and am learning to be one when the opportunity arises.
I will stand up for individual women who I know to be worth defending, but my attitude toward women in general is that they can take care of themselves, just as I'm expected to take care of myself because I'm a man. The excuse that it's too dangerous to help is valid, but I don't care to help. If I was on a sinking ship it would be children and men first.
There are still plenty of manipulated 'white knights' in existence, but I'm hopeful that the times are changing. Feminist complaints of a rise in "disturbing" attitudes among boys are encouraging, even if the boys really are young wolves in the making.
I don't think this will create more wolves either, at least in terms of sexually aggressive males as in 'wolf whistle'. If anything it might tend to take males who simply aren't that way out of the bars and the dating pool altogether, which would leave women with less savory options. Most men wouldn't sexually abuse or rape anyone even if they knew they could get away with it, so I completely disagree with the proposition that it's a crime of opportunity for any but the same tiny percentage of sick men that already exist.
Spot on Janice. Things are now so bad that even glaring inconsistencies in the accounts of rape given by women falsely alleging an attack are taken as positive proof, whereas with any other crime they would be taken as proof that the complainant is lying and the complaint dismissed.
Those complainants with a negative toxicology report should be charged with wasting police time. Similarly, the penalties for demonstrably false accusations against another person should be increased and enforced. Many women in particular seem to have no qualms about using false claims as a weapon and/or to garner sympathy from a society predisposed to believe them.
It won't happen in our lifetimes because the political upside is too small and the downside far too great. Included in the reports I read are plenty of cautions about how the drugs administered may exit the body very quickly, making it difficult to test for them. Even in cases of demonstrably false accusations, it is too easy for the accuser to claim honest mistake, honest belief, or prior abuse leading to mental confusion. The risk of being shown to have disbelieved or punished a single verified victim is simply too high. In comparison, smearing all men as predators and enormously wasting police resources are as nothing.
Indeed, you'll have to forgive me then if I don't "believe all women" (even you Janice!). Ultimately crying wolf hurts all of society because it erodes social capital. However, it's main target is men. Women shouldn't be surprised if it creates more wolves in the process, and a greater tolerance for wolves among men.
I wouldn't trust me either. I don't see that it does tend to create more wolves, but perhaps eventually it will. I've yet to meet a man who is genuinely indifferent to the abuse of women. But I definitely see more men deciding that, whatever happens, they will not intervene because it's too dangerous for them.
I believe it will create more wolves because if you're treated like a wolf, regardless of your true nature, you might as well behave like a wolf and gain the benefits that come with it, including revenge. I cannot be a wolf at all times because it's not in my nature, but I admire them and am learning to be one when the opportunity arises.
I will stand up for individual women who I know to be worth defending, but my attitude toward women in general is that they can take care of themselves, just as I'm expected to take care of myself because I'm a man. The excuse that it's too dangerous to help is valid, but I don't care to help. If I was on a sinking ship it would be children and men first.
There are still plenty of manipulated 'white knights' in existence, but I'm hopeful that the times are changing. Feminist complaints of a rise in "disturbing" attitudes among boys are encouraging, even if the boys really are young wolves in the making.
I don't think this will create more wolves either, at least in terms of sexually aggressive males as in 'wolf whistle'. If anything it might tend to take males who simply aren't that way out of the bars and the dating pool altogether, which would leave women with less savory options. Most men wouldn't sexually abuse or rape anyone even if they knew they could get away with it, so I completely disagree with the proposition that it's a crime of opportunity for any but the same tiny percentage of sick men that already exist.
Spot on Janice. Things are now so bad that even glaring inconsistencies in the accounts of rape given by women falsely alleging an attack are taken as positive proof, whereas with any other crime they would be taken as proof that the complainant is lying and the complaint dismissed.