Oh and I think I may have gotten two podcasts mixed in my memory, a lot has been interesting lately. So the one I mentioned, maiden mother matriarch, Louise Perry and Helen Joyce do confront the 'realty denying nature of feminism' ideas like women being just as good as men at firefighting. But I think the call for male spaces was actually from Mary Harrington on 'Modern Wisdom' with Chris Williamson, another conversation around all the same kind of ideas around this change of paradigm
Oh and I think I may have gotten two podcasts mixed in my memory, a lot has been interesting lately. So the one I mentioned, maiden mother matriarch, Louise Perry and Helen Joyce do confront the 'realty denying nature of feminism' ideas like women being just as good as men at firefighting. But I think the call for male spaces was actually from Mary Harrington on 'Modern Wisdom' with Chris Williamson, another conversation around all the same kind of ideas around this change of paradigm