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howard's avatar

Watch the podcast, or check out the clips Louise Perry posted on twitter, I am not claiming she came to Jesus, just that the two of them recognize, out loud, that social construction is dead.

i mean that's a huge step. The realization is spreading through all of the various feminist subcultures, it simply can not be denied - women are a natural phenomena, 'female' is not a developmental disorder caused by abuse, girls are not girls, nor are women women simply because men told them they were. So this is one foot in the door for acceptance of personal responsibility.

I made up an aphorism the other day 'People are like self pruning Bonsai trees, we make our choices and our choices make us' and that is the new model. We have intrinsic nature, we can train ourselves in many interesting ways, but only within the scope and limits of our biology.

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I can understand a desire to cheer on any woman who bravely steps up to speak out against the nonsense that has originated from feminism, but Ms Joyce only wants to push back with her own selfserving motives against the feminism that she bases her own ism on. She tends to talk fast and eloquently which can make it a challenge to catch her most outrageous statements as when in the abovementioned Boyce interview she claimed that unlike in the UK, trans identifying individuals have 'no rights' in the USA. In yet another interview cum book promotion tourstop, she asserted that one injustice of putting transwomen into women's prisons was that women don't belong in prisons because their crimes are less violent and they are usually involved with committing crimes with men who are by default the worse criminals. Such gynocentric statements get interspersed in otherwise sane statements against the excesses of trans activism but she herself is just pushing for her own excesses to retake center stage in the feminist drama that she has linked her career to

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howard's avatar

this take is backwards, it's not that social construction is some weird thing made up by feminists, rather it's that feminism is some weird thing made up by social constructionists.

I'm not cheering on any woman I am cheering on the advancement of the ideas, even in, as I said somewhere else in this thread 'the darkest pits of feminism'

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