When I was a child I had wonderful, caring fully invested teachers who were all females because at that time teaching and nursing were the height of the average Woman’s capacity to succeed. Lucky me and everybody else in my cohort (I’m 75).
Feminism has now allowed woman to succeed to the height of their ability. Hooray for them and hoora…
When I was a child I had wonderful, caring fully invested teachers who were all females because at that time teaching and nursing were the height of the average Woman’s capacity to succeed. Lucky me and everybody else in my cohort (I’m 75).
Feminism has now allowed woman to succeed to the height of their ability. Hooray for them and hooray for us. And hooray for the gov’t that found a second source of taxation.
But have you seen what has happened to the teaching ‘profession’? All those caring, nurturing wonderful women who would have become teachers are now Doctors, Lawyers, Professors and Business-Women. And what has gone into teaching can be seen in the twitter and YouTube vids that scare any normal thinking parent into consider home schooling.
I never bought into the feminist claims of society keeping women down. An elderly woman in my neighborhood as known as "Docky" because she was an MD (graduated before 1900). Most of the women in my neighborhood were married mothers, but we did have a sprinkling of independent career women. The amazing thing is that nobody treated them badly or made fun of them or tried to repress or oppress them. They were just part of the neighborhood, as much as anyone.
It really saddens me when I hear young anti-feminists who will claim that there was a time when feminism was needed, for getting the vote and the right to have a credit card in one's own name - completely uneducated about the fact that most women in the early 20th century weren't in favor of female suffrage, or that it was married women who couldn't get credit card in their own names - because husbands were liable for wives debts.
You might find a You Tube video by History Debunked quite interesting, it's about how women doctors have made medical care much more difficult to access:
If I gave you the impression that no woman ever succeeded beyond the teaching/nursing paradigm I’m sorry. Of course they did but it was very few and far between. My mother worked for Bell Telephone during the War and was the only one at her level allowed not only in the room but to switch the calls when a certain level of Military or Political communication went on. And there were several levels yet above her…all women.
I’m reminded of 21 year old female shift foremen at bomber plants in California.
But those were extraordinary times calling for extraordinary people. Women of every economic level have worked and succeeded over men in NA for years before my time. But it wasn’t common. I see the flaws in Feminism believe me but I see the benefits too I think.
The problem is when the ideology is driven by maniacs described by the other maniacs named in Janices article, no?
Hi Chuck, I'm so sorry that you would even think I thought you thought that way. I had in mind the way feminists depict the past as being blanketed with such attitudes, and those young women of today, even the ones who identify as anti-feminist, seem to have been infected with some false ideas about the past that were originated by the ideological maniacs that are the subject of Janice's essay.
My mom was actually a telephone operator when I was in kindergarten (she never was party to any high level conversations I was aware of).
One thing I admire about the women who took all those hard roles during WWII is that they didn't put ideology and/or money above their true natures or lose sight of their own femininity - they were the mothers of the baby boom.
Just watched the vid and Thank You…the guys language, style and cadence belies the truth he depicts of major professions in crisis nobody talks about because they don’t want to be viewed as sexist knuckle draggers.
Increasingly, the professions are being subsumed by women and eventually the crisis he described will have a light shined on it. I’d put $ on the idea that it will be somehow mens fault for not entering the profession spotlighted but going into the trades instead. Hard to do when acceptance standards only point one way.
When I graduated there were 18 women in a class of 125, 14.5%. Last year, 70% of the same class of 155 were women.
I'm 65 and I'm low income. I've been trying to get medicare part B paid for by the state (Medical savings program) I was told by TWO seperate agents that I qualify and it's going on a year that I'm being denied. I stopped paying and I was dropped. Then I was told if I pay the outstanding premium $1,160.70 in person I would be reinstated. Well after bringing the check in person to the entirely black/Hispanic/ wo-MEN run SS building in New Haven, months went by and I still wasn't reinstated. Well months more of persistent calls to the SS finally resulted in me being reinstated except I now owe $800.00 and am still being denied ( medical savings program for part B) even though I'm out of work and was low income before that. Am I the wrong demographic? Am I reading too much into this? THANKS for the video link
Chuck, teachers are still 78% wo-MEN. I think what's changed is lack of MALE leadership, such as MALE principals overseeing the curriculum. Also MALE teachers for BOYS
When I was a child I had wonderful, caring fully invested teachers who were all females because at that time teaching and nursing were the height of the average Woman’s capacity to succeed. Lucky me and everybody else in my cohort (I’m 75).
Feminism has now allowed woman to succeed to the height of their ability. Hooray for them and hooray for us. And hooray for the gov’t that found a second source of taxation.
But have you seen what has happened to the teaching ‘profession’? All those caring, nurturing wonderful women who would have become teachers are now Doctors, Lawyers, Professors and Business-Women. And what has gone into teaching can be seen in the twitter and YouTube vids that scare any normal thinking parent into consider home schooling.
I never bought into the feminist claims of society keeping women down. An elderly woman in my neighborhood as known as "Docky" because she was an MD (graduated before 1900). Most of the women in my neighborhood were married mothers, but we did have a sprinkling of independent career women. The amazing thing is that nobody treated them badly or made fun of them or tried to repress or oppress them. They were just part of the neighborhood, as much as anyone.
It really saddens me when I hear young anti-feminists who will claim that there was a time when feminism was needed, for getting the vote and the right to have a credit card in one's own name - completely uneducated about the fact that most women in the early 20th century weren't in favor of female suffrage, or that it was married women who couldn't get credit card in their own names - because husbands were liable for wives debts.
You might find a You Tube video by History Debunked quite interesting, it's about how women doctors have made medical care much more difficult to access:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_E4XSX6ay0
Hi Trish…
If I gave you the impression that no woman ever succeeded beyond the teaching/nursing paradigm I’m sorry. Of course they did but it was very few and far between. My mother worked for Bell Telephone during the War and was the only one at her level allowed not only in the room but to switch the calls when a certain level of Military or Political communication went on. And there were several levels yet above her…all women.
I’m reminded of 21 year old female shift foremen at bomber plants in California.
But those were extraordinary times calling for extraordinary people. Women of every economic level have worked and succeeded over men in NA for years before my time. But it wasn’t common. I see the flaws in Feminism believe me but I see the benefits too I think.
The problem is when the ideology is driven by maniacs described by the other maniacs named in Janices article, no?
Hi Chuck, I'm so sorry that you would even think I thought you thought that way. I had in mind the way feminists depict the past as being blanketed with such attitudes, and those young women of today, even the ones who identify as anti-feminist, seem to have been infected with some false ideas about the past that were originated by the ideological maniacs that are the subject of Janice's essay.
My mom was actually a telephone operator when I was in kindergarten (she never was party to any high level conversations I was aware of).
One thing I admire about the women who took all those hard roles during WWII is that they didn't put ideology and/or money above their true natures or lose sight of their own femininity - they were the mothers of the baby boom.
I would have no problem with feminism if it was openly a special interest advocacy group, but that would be kryptonite for their movement.
It would also be redundant, as there's already a well established female advocacy institution. It's called the Patriarchy.
That's who they ALWAYS were Chuck
Just watched the vid and Thank You…the guys language, style and cadence belies the truth he depicts of major professions in crisis nobody talks about because they don’t want to be viewed as sexist knuckle draggers.
Increasingly, the professions are being subsumed by women and eventually the crisis he described will have a light shined on it. I’d put $ on the idea that it will be somehow mens fault for not entering the profession spotlighted but going into the trades instead. Hard to do when acceptance standards only point one way.
When I graduated there were 18 women in a class of 125, 14.5%. Last year, 70% of the same class of 155 were women.
I'm 65 and I'm low income. I've been trying to get medicare part B paid for by the state (Medical savings program) I was told by TWO seperate agents that I qualify and it's going on a year that I'm being denied. I stopped paying and I was dropped. Then I was told if I pay the outstanding premium $1,160.70 in person I would be reinstated. Well after bringing the check in person to the entirely black/Hispanic/ wo-MEN run SS building in New Haven, months went by and I still wasn't reinstated. Well months more of persistent calls to the SS finally resulted in me being reinstated except I now owe $800.00 and am still being denied ( medical savings program for part B) even though I'm out of work and was low income before that. Am I the wrong demographic? Am I reading too much into this? THANKS for the video link
Chuck, teachers are still 78% wo-MEN. I think what's changed is lack of MALE leadership, such as MALE principals overseeing the curriculum. Also MALE teachers for BOYS