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wow! What a fascinating and stimulating conversation. So much covered and all of it important. Thank you both for this.

I was moved by the section where HS talked about asking her husband to be the sole breadwinner. As a man, I know that respect is essential along with admiration. Asking him to do this was a great sign of respect and admiration shown to him. He took that and ran with it! It gave his life meaning because you trusted him and had faith in him. This is fuel for men! (the fuel that is sadly missing for many men) God bless you and God bless your husband! I hope zillions of people can benefit from hearing that story.

It never ceases to amaze me the disregard for being at home as a parent with small children. My wife and I both went part time when our kids were little and that was surely the best part of my life! My kids are now in their 30's and we all have very fond memories of the loving space that we all had.

So great to hear a psychiatrist speaking in this way. As a therapist my trust in the mental health profession is, well, not so high. Great to see some wisdom! Thank you for speaking your truth.

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Thank you Tom, I really appreciate that!

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Hi Hannah. This part really resonated with me too. I've been married to my highschool sweetheart for 40 years and we have 11 children together.

I had a pretty cushy government job, 5 weeks paid vacation, 13 paid holidays and 13 paid sick days per year, upper middle class income, yada yada. I was there for 10 years but it wasn't fulfilling and mainly it interfered with our family life since I was working third shift. My wife was pregnant with our 5th child when I told her I wanted to start my own business. Think of all the certainty I was throwing away and the uncertainty I was asking her to embrace with me. But she did! And I've been in business for 30 years now and several of our sons work in the business. None of this would have been possible had she not been right at my side. "Behind every good man there's a woman" irritates some women because of the word "behind", but in reality there's no behind about it.

Gotta go but will check out your stack, no double entendre intended. 😂

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