Thanks for painting this picture Janice. It ain't pretty but it is totally true. I loved this sentence!
"It’s not their alleged intelligence, nor their career-mindedness, nor their liberated determination to “fight back.” It’s their mean-spiritedness, selfishness, and bottomless self-love."
Thanks for painting this picture Janice. It ain't pretty but it is totally true. I loved this sentence!
"It’s not their alleged intelligence, nor their career-mindedness, nor their liberated determination to “fight back.” It’s their mean-spiritedness, selfishness, and bottomless self-love."
Amen.
I am beginning to wonder if we don't have a contagion of borderline personality disorder symptoms among feminist women...they are petrified of being abandoned...even by those they don't know! lol
Even the most misandrist lesbian blue haired feminists still require men as their source of narcissistic supply. The societal sex dynamics are only peripherally about personal romantic and sexual relationships.
I had to grow up trying to deal with feminism-inspired narcissistic rages which I'm sure were related to some sort of mental illness. I'm not sure whether the feminism causes the mental illness, or provides an excuse for it. I suspect the latter. I wonder what such women did before the advent of feminism. There is an interesting character in the Dickens novel "Great Expectations", Pip's sister and Joe's wife, who frequently goes on "rampages". I suppose nowadays she would be a raging feminist.
We used to have negative female archetypes that everyone knew and accepted. The scold or the Shrew, for example. Somehow our two female types became Mother Mary and Marilyn. The holy woman and the slut. Feminism stopped us looking at negative female energy as if it doesn’t exist. There is toxic make energy. But man! There also is toxic female energy. This needs to be acknowledged.
You caught me trying to soften things... It is amazing how the culture has literally trained women to act like this. I suppose men and boys would act like this too if they were never held accountable.
Tom, there is a concept that I believe may be extremely relevant, If anyone trawls back through copies of women's magazines and collects all the articles on dating advice, marriage advice and the psychological questionnaires a pattern would start to emerge on how women were being psychologically manipulated by these magazines.
I base my hypothesis on the Facial Scar experiment, where participants had a fake scar placed no their faces and as they left the room, the makeup artist under the guise of adjusting the scar removed it. The participants then interpreted other peoples body language differently.
But even before that a mate said his wife told him that she would feel unhappy after reading one of these magazines, his response was "Stop Reading them".
And if current research is to be believed more and more women are unhappy.
This is a great idea Phillip. Have you considered doing it? I was wondering about choosing10 random relationship recommendation articles from women's magazines between 1990 and the present and just start to get a sense of the main thrust of what is being recommended. I think it would tell a potent story. Then again, maybe choose one article every 3 years during that period to also get a sense of the changes over time. What a great idea!
I have considered doing, but I would need a couple of collaborators especially a psychologist to make sure I was on the right track. I am not always able to articulate what is inside my head, words or phrases at times do not come easy to me. I already have the title "The Psychological manipulation of the Female Mind".
'I suppose men and boys would act like this too if they were never held accountable.'
Good point Tom. My first thought on reading that was 'yes indeed' and then I thought of how overgrown, spoiled mummy's boys behave, which is just like that.
Yes, agree. Maturity and accountability are tied together. As a culture we apply this potion to aid maturity in such a sexist manner. The men and boys get it and the women and girls don't. When will feminists protest this travesty?
Jordan Peterson once said along the lines "The ideal age to train a soldier is between their late teens and early 20's".
I think it was something about melding them into a team, because after the early 20's it becomes much more difficult.
Comments about universities made 2 decades ago, is that Universities are turning out activists, as undergraduates become indoctrinated in Feminist Theory. So the graduates of Gender Studies that has invade Journalism, Psychology even Politics are only indoctrinated into the history of the world according to "Feminist Theory"
If we look at the current crop of Spin Sisters of the Media they have the Feminist Theory down pat on how they write and report news stories.
Yes, Peterson there says himself that he is relying on Piaget, who postulated a period of late adolescence called the 'messianic phase' when young people are most susceptible to offerings of anything that can give them as sense of personal transcendence, presumably helping to resolve earlier struggles with identity.
Tom, I don't think that it's actually self-love that these feminists have. Self-love is actually a healthy thing. What it is, rather, is selfishness, based on ego inflation and notions of moral superiority and consequent entitlement.
Definitely. And often driven by insecurities and feelings of inadequacy. Social media ignites a desire for "Likes" and an avoidance of ostracizing. Mental illness is well known to be widespread among extreme, hurtful feminists.
"... activism provides them with opportunities for positive self-presentation and displays of moral superiority, the gain of social status, the domination of others, and the engagement in social conflicts and aggression to satisfy their need for thrill seeking."
Thanks for linking these Ben. I have been interested in the Dark Triad research that seems to be related to these studies. This is so refreshing to see.
I read the whole paper, it is quite interesting. Psychologists seem to have developed useful metrics for measuring various forms of human behaviour, and they can associate these with the behaviour of "accusatory" feminists, the Charlotte Proudman type of person.
Many wo-MEN excuse other wo-MEN'S crimes due to PSTD/Post Partum depression/ADHD/Bi polar/under developed pre frontal cortex/ Are they inadvertently exposing their own gender as being less stable?
There was a movie "Mosquito Coast" I think where if I recall correctly William Hurt plays the part of a man obsessed, he is in the tropics and builds an ice machine, his obession leads him to wanting to take some ice to natives who had never seen it. After a long trek he finds the natives and carefully unwraps the leaves from the ice, only to find it had all melted and turned to water. I didn't understand the movie until I was explaining it to another person. He was so obssesed he didn't notice his family unraveling behind him.
That's what I meant Janice, ONLY out of a sense of duty...to see what we're up against, and only if I was still in high school. Again, THANK YOU for your sense of professional duty. It's good to be informed. As long as you have an outlet when you process what's happening
As far as I know, she is still working on her documentary film, which got derailed by Covid for a couple of years. I spoke to her about a year ago and she was still very committed to men's issues.
I would have loved to have been able to support her more financially, I did meet a person who was heading OS to make a documentary and I told him about her, not sure if he made contact, but it was worth a try.
Thanks for painting this picture Janice. It ain't pretty but it is totally true. I loved this sentence!
"It’s not their alleged intelligence, nor their career-mindedness, nor their liberated determination to “fight back.” It’s their mean-spiritedness, selfishness, and bottomless self-love."
Amen.
I am beginning to wonder if we don't have a contagion of borderline personality disorder symptoms among feminist women...they are petrified of being abandoned...even by those they don't know! lol
Even the most misandrist lesbian blue haired feminists still require men as their source of narcissistic supply. The societal sex dynamics are only peripherally about personal romantic and sexual relationships.
A cat won't let a mouse escape from its play.
What do mean a contagion?
I strongly suspect that the vast majority have some form of personality disorder.
They would much prefer to be outraged and experiences the rush of hormonal releases that occur after the berserker rage settles down.
Even Janice herself said when she took part in the "Take back the night" protests that it felt good.
I had to grow up trying to deal with feminism-inspired narcissistic rages which I'm sure were related to some sort of mental illness. I'm not sure whether the feminism causes the mental illness, or provides an excuse for it. I suspect the latter. I wonder what such women did before the advent of feminism. There is an interesting character in the Dickens novel "Great Expectations", Pip's sister and Joe's wife, who frequently goes on "rampages". I suppose nowadays she would be a raging feminist.
We used to have negative female archetypes that everyone knew and accepted. The scold or the Shrew, for example. Somehow our two female types became Mother Mary and Marilyn. The holy woman and the slut. Feminism stopped us looking at negative female energy as if it doesn’t exist. There is toxic make energy. But man! There also is toxic female energy. This needs to be acknowledged.
You caught me trying to soften things... It is amazing how the culture has literally trained women to act like this. I suppose men and boys would act like this too if they were never held accountable.
It's not just not being held to account. Women are rewarded for this shit.
Tom, there is a concept that I believe may be extremely relevant, If anyone trawls back through copies of women's magazines and collects all the articles on dating advice, marriage advice and the psychological questionnaires a pattern would start to emerge on how women were being psychologically manipulated by these magazines.
I base my hypothesis on the Facial Scar experiment, where participants had a fake scar placed no their faces and as they left the room, the makeup artist under the guise of adjusting the scar removed it. The participants then interpreted other peoples body language differently.
But even before that a mate said his wife told him that she would feel unhappy after reading one of these magazines, his response was "Stop Reading them".
And if current research is to be believed more and more women are unhappy.
That would be a fascinating study (but you'd need an iron stomach).
This is a great idea Phillip. Have you considered doing it? I was wondering about choosing10 random relationship recommendation articles from women's magazines between 1990 and the present and just start to get a sense of the main thrust of what is being recommended. I think it would tell a potent story. Then again, maybe choose one article every 3 years during that period to also get a sense of the changes over time. What a great idea!
Great ideas, Tom!
Thanks Janice, the credit goes to Phillip.
Wonder if I could score some funding to do it?
If you could frame it in terms of studying women it might be possible to get some funding? Otherwise, ain't no way.
I have considered doing, but I would need a couple of collaborators especially a psychologist to make sure I was on the right track. I am not always able to articulate what is inside my head, words or phrases at times do not come easy to me. I already have the title "The Psychological manipulation of the Female Mind".
In the past magazines contained explosives. Nowadays they still do, but in a different way when it comes to the glossy ones.
An anagram of 'magazines is 'Nazi games'. No surprises there then.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-associated-press-became-part-nazi-propaganda-machine-180958629/
'I suppose men and boys would act like this too if they were never held accountable.'
Good point Tom. My first thought on reading that was 'yes indeed' and then I thought of how overgrown, spoiled mummy's boys behave, which is just like that.
Yes, agree. Maturity and accountability are tied together. As a culture we apply this potion to aid maturity in such a sexist manner. The men and boys get it and the women and girls don't. When will feminists protest this travesty?
Jordan Peterson once said along the lines "The ideal age to train a soldier is between their late teens and early 20's".
I think it was something about melding them into a team, because after the early 20's it becomes much more difficult.
Comments about universities made 2 decades ago, is that Universities are turning out activists, as undergraduates become indoctrinated in Feminist Theory. So the graduates of Gender Studies that has invade Journalism, Psychology even Politics are only indoctrinated into the history of the world according to "Feminist Theory"
If we look at the current crop of Spin Sisters of the Media they have the Feminist Theory down pat on how they write and report news stories.
The Gamma Bias at play.
Yes, Peterson there says himself that he is relying on Piaget, who postulated a period of late adolescence called the 'messianic phase' when young people are most susceptible to offerings of anything that can give them as sense of personal transcendence, presumably helping to resolve earlier struggles with identity.
Tom, I don't think that it's actually self-love that these feminists have. Self-love is actually a healthy thing. What it is, rather, is selfishness, based on ego inflation and notions of moral superiority and consequent entitlement.
Definitely. And often driven by insecurities and feelings of inadequacy. Social media ignites a desire for "Likes" and an avoidance of ostracizing. Mental illness is well known to be widespread among extreme, hurtful feminists.
I saw this:
'Evidence for the Dark-Ego-Vehicle Principle: Higher Pathological Narcissism Is Associated With Greater Involvement in Feminist Activism'
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4195431
on Twitter yesterday.
https://twitter.com/Gynocentrism/status/1705443867171140089
There's a quote I like in the article:
"... activism provides them with opportunities for positive self-presentation and displays of moral superiority, the gain of social status, the domination of others, and the engagement in social conflicts and aggression to satisfy their need for thrill seeking."
Does that sound like anyone we know?
Thanks for linking these Ben. I have been interested in the Dark Triad research that seems to be related to these studies. This is so refreshing to see.
I read the whole paper, it is quite interesting. Psychologists seem to have developed useful metrics for measuring various forms of human behaviour, and they can associate these with the behaviour of "accusatory" feminists, the Charlotte Proudman type of person.
It is a bit dense reading though.
Many wo-MEN excuse other wo-MEN'S crimes due to PSTD/Post Partum depression/ADHD/Bi polar/under developed pre frontal cortex/ Are they inadvertently exposing their own gender as being less stable?
Indeed Joseph. Reminds me of the Barbie movie!
I can't fathom myself watching it unless I smoke a big one and go back to high school
Do not watch! I watched out of a sense of professional duty, and found it very painful.
There was a movie "Mosquito Coast" I think where if I recall correctly William Hurt plays the part of a man obsessed, he is in the tropics and builds an ice machine, his obession leads him to wanting to take some ice to natives who had never seen it. After a long trek he finds the natives and carefully unwraps the leaves from the ice, only to find it had all melted and turned to water. I didn't understand the movie until I was explaining it to another person. He was so obssesed he didn't notice his family unraveling behind him.
That's what I meant Janice, ONLY out of a sense of duty...to see what we're up against, and only if I was still in high school. Again, THANK YOU for your sense of professional duty. It's good to be informed. As long as you have an outlet when you process what's happening
Thanks! Tom and I will discuss; also, I am going to see if I can make something of it for this newsletter.
Are you, perchance, writing a review?
Ava Brighton said it out loud, and I haven't heard a word about her since.
As far as I know, she is still working on her documentary film, which got derailed by Covid for a couple of years. I spoke to her about a year ago and she was still very committed to men's issues.
I would have loved to have been able to support her more financially, I did meet a person who was heading OS to make a documentary and I told him about her, not sure if he made contact, but it was worth a try.
re "...bottomless self-love." Does this mean they don't love their bottoms? :)
That would explain a lot!
That's the fault of the patriarchy too.
I have a personal story about this but I will not bore you with it ...
Oh do, I like being bored! But it is late here in UK so I really ought to go to bed.
In any event, thank you for all you do.